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		<title>By: A first paper on square root of a Brownian motion and quantum mechanics gets published! &#171; The Gauge Connection</title>
		<link>http://marcofrasca.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/quantum-mechanics-and-the-square-root-of-brownian-motion/#comment-5084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A first paper on square root of a Brownian motion and quantum mechanics gets published! &#171; The Gauge Connection]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of posts on the link between the square root of a stochastic process and quantum mechanics (see here, here, here, here, here), that I proved to exist both theoretically and experimentally, I am [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of posts on the link between the square root of a stochastic process and quantum mechanics (see here, here, here, here, here), that I proved to exist both theoretically and experimentally, I am [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mfrasca</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ohad,

Thank you for your interest about my work. In this case $latex \psi$ or pdf are the same thing but here happens to be complex and the interpretation should be somewhat changed.

Marco]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ohad,</p>
<p>Thank you for your interest about my work. In this case <img src='http://s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Cpsi&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=333333&amp;s=0' alt='&#92;psi' title='&#92;psi' class='latex' /> or pdf are the same thing but here happens to be complex and the interpretation should be somewhat changed.</p>
<p>Marco</p>
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		<title>By: Ohad Asor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ohad Asor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[one thing I didn&#039;t figure out yet:
in (8), the Kolmogorov (btw, how did you choose bwd/fwd?) is about the pdf. but you mention psi there. so, is that psi the wave function or its norm squared?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one thing I didn&#8217;t figure out yet:<br />
in (8), the Kolmogorov (btw, how did you choose bwd/fwd?) is about the pdf. but you mention psi there. so, is that psi the wave function or its norm squared?</p>
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		<title>By: Ohad Asor</title>
		<link>http://marcofrasca.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/quantum-mechanics-and-the-square-root-of-brownian-motion/#comment-4884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ohad Asor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,
Big fan of this work. No words to tell how much.
Would love to cooperate in research with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Big fan of this work. No words to tell how much.<br />
Would love to cooperate in research with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson noise and its square root &#171; The Gauge Connection</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnson noise and its square root &#171; The Gauge Connection]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] my recent work on stochastic processes and quantum mechanics (see here and here), after I showed its existence with numerical computation (see here), this time I moved [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my recent work on stochastic processes and quantum mechanics (see here and here), after I showed its existence with numerical computation (see here), this time I moved [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quantum mechanics and stochastic processes: Revised paper posted &#171; The Gauge Connection</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quantum mechanics and stochastic processes: Revised paper posted &#171; The Gauge Connection]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] paper on arXiv (see here). The idea has been described here. A full account of this story is given here. The interesting aspect from a physical standpoint is the space that is fluctuating both for a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] paper on arXiv (see here). The idea has been described here. A full account of this story is given here. The interesting aspect from a physical standpoint is the space that is fluctuating both for a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Brannen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Brannen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The presence of the square root suggests that pure density matrices are a better description of pure states than state vectors, and of course mixed density matrices can represent states that state vectors alone cannot.

I think that the primary utility of state vectors and spinors is that their mathematics is linear. That is, they&#039;re advantageous for our representation of reality rather than (necessarily) being what most naturally represents reality. So I see them as a mathematical tool; the fundamental physics is in density matrix form. (Or propagators.)

One way of seeing that QM is inherently nonlinear is to note that tripling a wave function doesn&#039;t create a model of a quantum state in any way different from the original one. This is in distinction to a truly linear theory like classical E&amp;M where tripling the charges, currents, voltages, etc., creates a new state that represents a different physical state than the original.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The presence of the square root suggests that pure density matrices are a better description of pure states than state vectors, and of course mixed density matrices can represent states that state vectors alone cannot.</p>
<p>I think that the primary utility of state vectors and spinors is that their mathematics is linear. That is, they&#8217;re advantageous for our representation of reality rather than (necessarily) being what most naturally represents reality. So I see them as a mathematical tool; the fundamental physics is in density matrix form. (Or propagators.)</p>
<p>One way of seeing that QM is inherently nonlinear is to note that tripling a wave function doesn&#8217;t create a model of a quantum state in any way different from the original one. This is in distinction to a truly linear theory like classical E&amp;M where tripling the charges, currents, voltages, etc., creates a new state that represents a different physical state than the original.</p>
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		<title>By: mfrasca</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mfrasca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Giulio,

Thank you a lot for your interest on my work. Please, note that there is a problem in the definition of the stochastic integral as it is given there. Sums like $latex \sum_iG(\tau_i)(W(t_i)-W(t_{i-1}))^\alpha$ do not appear to converge for $0&lt;\alpha&lt;1$ and so the integral in the Riemann sense does not exist. So, I am in need for a proper definition of this integral to make all the argument consistent. I am open to whatever good proposal.

About the form of the Schroedinger equation you are right, there a term proportional to $latex (1+i)/2$ multiplied by the derivative of the wave function. This should be corrected using a potential that can remove it. It is interesting to note that, in 3 dimension, I would expect a gauge coupled equation to come out.

Regards,

Marco]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Giulio,</p>
<p>Thank you a lot for your interest on my work. Please, note that there is a problem in the definition of the stochastic integral as it is given there. Sums like <img src='http://s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%5Csum_iG%28%5Ctau_i%29%28W%28t_i%29-W%28t_%7Bi-1%7D%29%29%5E%5Calpha&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=333333&amp;s=0' alt='&#92;sum_iG(&#92;tau_i)(W(t_i)-W(t_{i-1}))^&#92;alpha' title='&#92;sum_iG(&#92;tau_i)(W(t_i)-W(t_{i-1}))^&#92;alpha' class='latex' /> do not appear to converge for $0&lt;\alpha&lt;1$ and so the integral in the Riemann sense does not exist. So, I am in need for a proper definition of this integral to make all the argument consistent. I am open to whatever good proposal.</p>
<p>About the form of the Schroedinger equation you are right, there a term proportional to <img src='http://s0.wp.com/latex.php?latex=%281%2Bi%29%2F2&amp;bg=ffffff&amp;fg=333333&amp;s=0' alt='(1+i)/2' title='(1+i)/2' class='latex' /> multiplied by the derivative of the wave function. This should be corrected using a potential that can remove it. It is interesting to note that, in 3 dimension, I would expect a gauge coupled equation to come out.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Marco</p>
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		<title>By: Giulio Vandin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Giulio Vandin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a question on the equation (10), which you call the &quot;Schroedinger equation&quot; for a free particle. But doesn&#039;t the term proportional to the first spatial derivative of psi affect its temporal evolution? This way it looks like some kind of damped oscillator with complex damping constant: with a straightforward calculation you get solutions which indeed oscillate like the plain-wave solutions of the free particle equation, but for great times the solutions tend to the trivial zero solution. Did I interpretate in a wrong way? I&#039;m very interested in understanding this article, because I was thinking about it on my own, and with your permission I would like to talk about it during a seminar within a course of Statistical Physics of Complex Systems I&#039;m attending.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question on the equation (10), which you call the &#8220;Schroedinger equation&#8221; for a free particle. But doesn&#8217;t the term proportional to the first spatial derivative of psi affect its temporal evolution? This way it looks like some kind of damped oscillator with complex damping constant: with a straightforward calculation you get solutions which indeed oscillate like the plain-wave solutions of the free particle equation, but for great times the solutions tend to the trivial zero solution. Did I interpretate in a wrong way? I&#8217;m very interested in understanding this article, because I was thinking about it on my own, and with your permission I would like to talk about it during a seminar within a course of Statistical Physics of Complex Systems I&#8217;m attending.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Brannen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Brannen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also had a question answered at math stack exchange, one having to do with the bases of a finite Hilbert space: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/28413 . The paper associated with it is now under review at Jour. Math. Phys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also had a question answered at math stack exchange, one having to do with the bases of a finite Hilbert space: <a href="http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/28413" rel="nofollow">http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/28413</a> . The paper associated with it is now under review at Jour. Math. Phys.</p>
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